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#13551 - Cross Examination Bott - BPC Criminal Advocacy

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REAL ASSESSMENT - XX

ALFIE BOTT

PREVIOUS CONVICTIONS

  • Mr Bott you said a few minutes ago that you ____________
    (I’d like to take you back to something you said in your evidence a few minutes ago – previous convictions)

  • But this isn’t the first time you are in court is it?

  • This isn’t the first time you‘ve been in serious trouble.

  • There was an incident wasn’t there on the 3rd of May 2005?

  • And it concerned a burglary.

  • You stole jewellery.

  • And you pleaded not guilty.

  • But the jury didn’t believe you did they?

  • And the offence we are concerned today is because it alleged that you stole jewellery and cash.

  • And there was another incident wasn’t there on the 19th October 2010?

  • And that incident concerned burglary as well.

  • And you again pleaded not guilty.

  • And the jury again didn’t believe you.

  • You stole a watch.

  • From 78 year old man.

  • You approached his house didn’t you?

  • And you said to him that you were collecting property.

(continued) PREVIOUS CONVICTIONS

  • When in fact you didn’t.

  • That man let you in didn’t he?

  • So because he let you in, you saw an opportunity.

  • So you like to take advantage of situations where people are more likely to let you in.

  • And you think it is justified to lie to the elderly.

  • And you think it is justified to steal items when vulnerable people let you in.

  • So if you find yourself in a situation where vulnerable people let you in there is a real risk of stealing from them.

  • And on the 2nd of April 2011, you were convicted of 3 further distraction burglaries of dwellings.

  • On the incident we are concerned today, you approached Mrs O’Grady’s house.

  • That is a 73 year old woman.

  • And you said to her that you were supervising the visits by the younger members.

  • And she let you in.

  • And you stole from her a ring and cash.

POSTERS

  • Mr. Bott you are from from Lanchester.

  • It is true isn’t it that your work is at Lanchester North Village Hall.

  • And you have a stall on the market.

  • And you work there 5 days a week.

  • So you spent a lot of time at the markets.

  • You were aware of the council scheme regarding the heating provision.

  • Mr. Bott you had seen the posters advertising the scheme hadn’t you?

  • They were also posted all around town.

  • They were on the walls around the market stalls.

IDENTIFICATION

  • Mr Bott you are quite a tall man aren’t you?

  • You are approximately 5’ 10.

  • And you have a small moustache.

  • And you have grey hair.

  • And your hair is slicked back.

  • And you are in your 50s.

  • And you have been working all your life.

  • You have been doing outdoor work.

  • And the work you do is very hands on isn’t it?

  • And because of that you have calloused hands.

  • And you have badly bitten nails.

  • But your nails are bitten.

RELATIONSHIP WITH SARAH + brought back card

  • Sara Holt is your girlfriend. Is that correct?

  • And you have been dating since March 2014.

  • You go quite often to her house don’t you?

  • That is when she invites you.

  • The kitchen is situated next to the sitting room.

  • And between the kitchen and the sitting room there is a hatch.

  • And this hatch is always open.

  • On the 15th of September you went to her house.

    INCONSISTENCY

(continued)RELATIONSHIP WITH SARAH)

- On the 15th of September , you went to her house uninvited.

  • At around 6pm.

  • You chatted.

  • And you were watching TV.

  • And you then went to the toilet.

  • The toilet is upstairs.

  • It is close to Emma’s bedroom.

  • And when you went upstairs you went to Emma’s bedroom.

  • You went there to leave her council ID.

  • You were in a hurry.

  • You couldn’t remember where you got it from.

  • And you left the ID on the top of her chest of drawers.

  • But that is not where you got it from is it?

  • You got the ID card from the dressing table drawer.

  • You took the ID card to show it to Mrs O’Grady.

  • You wanted to gain access to Mrs O’Grady’s property.

  • When you got the ID, you also looked at Emma’s paperwork.

  • And that is where you saw Mrs O’Grady’s address.

12 September

  • On the 12th of September you went to Sara Holt’s house.

    INCONSISTENCY

  • And when you went there Emma Holt was there.

  • You were aware weren’t you that Emma works for the council.

  • Before Emma went to pack she was in the kitchen.

(continued) 12 September

  • She was in the kitchen with Sara Holt.

  • And the hatch between the kitchen and the sitting room was open.

  • And you were in the sitting room.

  • And while in the sitting room, you overheard Emma and Sarah talking.

  • You overheard them talking about one of the visits Sarah made to an old lady.

  • You overheard her saying that the old lady wanted to pass on her engagement ring to her granddaughter.

INCIDENT

  • Mr Bott it is true isn’t it that you don’t work on Mondays and Sundays.

  • On Monday the 15th of September you were not working.

  • You visited Mrs O’Grady’s house.

  • And you were wearing a suit.

  • You said to her that you were from the council.

  • You showed her Emma’s ID.

  • And you said to her that you were supervising the visits by younger members of staff from the council.

  • And Mrs O’Grady let you in.

  • You talked for a while.

  • She told you that she was going to give her engagement ring to her granddaughter.

  • You told her, it was a well-known fact that old people hide things under the bed.

  • You told her that because you wanted to find out where she kept the ring.

  • You went to use the toilet.

  • You went into Mrs O’Grady’s bedroom.

  • You went there to look for the engagement ring.

  • You found it in her bedside table drawer.

  • You also found 3,000 in cash.

  • You then took the ring and the cash.

  • You went to the bathroom.

  • You flushed the toilet.

(continued) INCIDENT

  • And went back to the kitchen.

  • The 3,000 that were stolen from Mrs O’Grady were in denominations of 50.

  • And it is true isn’t it that when you were arrested you were found in possession of cash.

  • And the cash you had in your possession were in denominations of 50.

INTERVIEW (adds something to his XIC)

  • Mr Bott while at interview you had a solicitor present.

  • You were cautioned.

  • And you understood the caution.

  • You knew that you needed to be clear and accurate in what you were saying.

  • You understood that it may harm your defence if you failed to mention anything that you later rely on it in court.

NO COMMENT – END

  • While at the police interview, you answered to most of the questions by the police officer.

  • But towards the end, you went no comment.

  • You refused to answer the remaining questions.

  • You refused to answer because you became tired.

  • You became tired because you were lying.

  • And you didn’t have a consistent story.

  • What you said in interview was not the truth.

  • And what you are saying today is not the truth.

PREVIOUS INCONSISTENT STATEMENT – DEFENCE STATEMENT

  • Mr. Bott you earlier told the court that ________________

  • Are you sure about that?

  • You provided a Defence Statement in this case didn’t you?

  • That document was drawn up by your solicitors?

  • And based on your instructions?

  • You would have been given an opportunity to check that document for accuracy?

  • You would have been told that it should reflect your defence as completely and as accurately as possible?

  • And you have signed that document haven’t you on that basis?

    PLEASE may the witness be shown a copy of his defence statement.

  • That is your signature isn’t it at the bottom of page 3.

  • And it is dated 6th January 2015.

  • May I ask you to look at the __________ page at...

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